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How strong is Mr. Satan?
Topic Started: Jan 15 2013, 12:50 PM (7,353 Views)
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Tien Shinhan
Jan 15 2013, 08:51 PM
Miguelnuva = A Mr.Satan brainwashed fanboy

Mr.Satan is shet.

His own daughter is even stronger than him
I'm not a Hercule fan boy by far. I know Videl is stronger than Hercule and I know Krillen and Goku BODB could stomp Hercule, I just don't see how the person who is suppose to be the Strongest Normal Man in the world could be under 10 when a farmer with a shotgun is 5.

When two people are fighting without Ki their needs to be a slightly larger gap then two people without Ki otherwise the fight could go either way either time.

For Hercule to win 2 or 3 tournaments easily without Ki he would need some sort of gap on his competition.

Now if you want to call me a fanboy please put Gogeta, Future Trunks or Vegito before it.
Edited by miguelnuva, Jan 15 2013, 09:12 PM.
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miguelnuva
Jan 15 2013, 09:02 PM
Tien Shinhan
Jan 15 2013, 08:51 PM
Miguelnuva = A Mr.Satan brainwashed fanboy

Mr.Satan is shet.

His own daughter is even stronger than him
I'm not a Hercule fan boy by far. I know Videl is stronger than Hercule and I know Krillen and Goku BODB could stomp Hercule, I just don't see how the person who is suppose to be the Strongest Normal Man in the world could be under 10 when a farmer with a shotgun is 5.

When two people are fighting without Ki their needs to be a slightly larger gap then two people without Ki otherwise the fight could go either way either time.

For Hercule to win 2 or 3 tournaments easily without Ki he would need some sort of gap on his competition.

Now if you want to call me a fanboy please put Gogeta, Future Trunks or Vegito before it.





You realise a 1.2x gap is enough for a easy win, right?

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Like I said before

A powerlevel of 5 , compared to a powerlevel of 7 , is a respectively a huge gap for the Human race.
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znet
Jan 15 2013, 08:54 PM
mr satan power is 10


You have Satan equal to Kid Goku ? Why ?
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Like I have asid before I like the numbers use here and my PLs fall similar to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU2SAHArd0s

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IX87yocS4U
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Jewel and Satan had a close match. He didn't blow through the competition.

Being double the average human's power level would make him a god compared to them, yet he clearly wasn't.
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The really, REALLY important thing to keep in mind is that these numbers we toss around are a measurement of KI. Not that of overall ability.

Goku at the beginning of the series only has twice the amount of Ki as a normal human, but his Saiyan physiology grants him physical power and durability faaaar above any human with a PL of 10 would have. His Power Level would start to increase only with Roshi's training, if you ask me. Even into the mid-to-late parts of the first half of the series, I would think Goku's natural physical prowess might help him make up for disadvantages in Power Level. His match against Muten Roshi, for example.

Videl is the opposite. Even though she's a martial artist since her youth and is pretty tough... She's a normal human, a teenage girl at that, and would be relatively frail, lacking in raw physical toughness compared to others because of that. But once she learns 'Ki Control 101' from Professor Gohan, her Power Level would start to increase because of it, augmenting her natural abilities. To the point where she can tango with someone who had that type of power brought out by force.

Mister Satan may be among the physically toughest, strongest, and most skilled normal humans in the world, but might still have barely any more, if any more at all, Ki at his disposal than a normal human. If he were to be trained for it like Videl was, that might change.
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I still can't buy Mr. Satan being below a 10, especially after winning multiple world tournaments legitimatley. Just because he's a complete joke in Dragonball doesn't mean he's weak. I think he's around the same tier as these guys:

Man-Wolf, Pamput, Colonel Silver, Baterian, etc. In fact, Pamput is the character I would highly compare him to in terms of strength.



Around the General Blue level he and Videl are completley outclassed.
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According to Man-Wolf he's got a "30-dan in kenpo!!”. After a tiny bit of research it seems 10th Dan is the highest you can actually go, so Man-Wolf is actually unrealistically strong.

Mr Satan is powerful, but only in a realistic setting.
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sylentknyte
Jan 16 2013, 01:29 AM
I still can't buy Mr. Satan being below a 10, especially after winning multiple world tournaments legitimatley. Just because he's a complete joke in Dragonball doesn't mean he's weak. I think he's around the same tier as these guys:

Man-Wolf, Pamput, Colonel Silver, Baterian, etc. In fact, Pamput is the character I would highly compare him to in terms of strength.

Around the General Blue level he and Videl are completley outclassed.
Manwolf > Mr. Satan : Manwolf punched a trough a tree with eas , I like to see Satan do that.

Panbutt > Mr.Satan : Panbutt breaks 19 bricks , I like to see Satan do that , the fact that he couldn't break 10 bricks , and feels so much pain

Colonel Silver > Mr.Satan : Silver took down several professional boxers like they were little kids and just calmly watched Son Goku throw a giant rock and destroy a tank with it and decided he'd be able to beat him. Of course Filler but its his feats..

Bacterian > Mr.Satan: A Turtle Hermit School Martial Artist Krillin won with difficult against Bacterian , what can Satan do ?

Blue >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satan: Because he is a..

Satan is below Kid Goku BoDB.
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Hold up. General Blue is a what?
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You guys are trying one again to use DBZ logic on DB characters and vice versa. In DB things were based on skill, power, speed and KI.

Based on DB numbers yes I would put Hercule at 8 at the max but 4 or 5.

When DBZ rolls around this switches to a number system where what you can and can't do became more or less based on your power level.

By DBZ standards Hercule is able to be placed Higher then he would in DB. A farmer is able to reach 5 which is half of Goku, that means the farmer should be able to lift half what Goku does doesn't it?

DB feats don't match up to DBZ power levels as well as they should be a DB 10 would murder a DBZ 10 based on the feats.

Now can someone post the daiz screen with the DB PLS and the date that daiz was released.
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miguelnuva
Jan 16 2013, 02:59 AM
You guys are trying one again to use DBZ logic on DB characters and vice versa. In DB things were based on skill, power, speed and KI.

Based on DB numbers yes I would put Hercule at 8 at the max but 4 or 5.

When DBZ rolls around this switches to a number system where what you can and can't do became more or less based on your power level.

By DBZ standards Hercule is able to be placed Higher then he would in DB. A farmer is able to reach 5 which is half of Goku, that means the farmer should be able to lift half what Goku does doesn't it?

DB feats don't match up to DBZ power levels as well as they should be a DB 10 would murder a DBZ 10 based on the feats.

Now can someone post the daiz screen with the DB PLS and the date that daiz was released.
The gap from 5 compared 10 is huge.

Its like Nappa vs Yamcha.
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